Fishing, lowbie money, and profession talk.
Fishing, lowbie money, and profession talk.
Oh, loyal readers, it’s been so long since a post from either Zekta or me. We’ve each sent the usual, “Man, I should have posted by now,” emails to each other, and we’ve each received the usual, “yeah, I know. I should really have posted by now,” replies. My point in all this is that I should have posted more recently… but I digress.
First, a quick post-3.3 checkup. I did very well on my server on patch day, mostly by liquidating my stacks of Saronite Bars transmuted into titanium. I sold the titanium in stacks at about 75% of the previous server norm, and they were all gone in a few hours. Maybe others had this experience as well. I imagine I was just preying on people who didn’t know the removal of the Transmute: Titanium cooldown, but shame on them for not reading P3P!
I have also been stacking epic gems, cut and otherwise. They’ve been moving more slowly, but I imagine that their value will generally go up for about a month or more, at least. As people get new gear, they will need new gems. I believe the place to make money in gems will be similar in 3.3 to what it was in 3.2: at first cut gems sell well, then they stagnate and uncut gems sell.
(The question I have- which is the one that makes the big money- is when exactly does this switch occur? 4 weeks? 6 weeks? More? I really don’t know. If anyone has a bright idea about this timeline, please put it in comments. My gut says 4-6 weeks, but that’s about all I’ve got. Anyone, ftw?)
ANYWAY, I want to get back to responding to a comment posted in my first post. Hugmenot said:
One thing I rarely see discussed is opportunities for new players to make decent coin while leveling. The standard recommendation is to pick up two gathering professions but no almost no one talks about the meat, fish, and cloth markets.
Before beginning, I’d like to point to JMTC, who recently stole any thunder I may have had about this topic. The recent topic on “How to make gold pre-level 50” is full of great ideas. Read this post, then read that one, and then go make money. (And, if you make a lot of money, come back here and tell us how you did it, in the comments!)
ANYWAY, in my experience, making money as a new character depends, in part, on what level your toon is. For the sake of argument, let’s say the person is brand new, no other toons, no 80s, no ability to make a deathknight… nothing. Just you and your level 1 toon. Here is what I’d recommend.
First of all, let’s establish a goal- flying and dual spec by level 70; coldweather and *cough* maybe even epic flying by 80. Here’s how I’d do it.
First, I’d start w/the advice that Hugmenot originally mentions: two gathering professions. One should absolutely, positively, without question, be Mining. I never ceases to make money, at any level. At last check, Copper Ore on my server was selling at 4-5g/stack (it was a Thursday, fyi). You can get 3 stacks of copper walking around outside of Stormwind for 5 mins at level 15 or so. That’s 10-20g (depending on market fluctuation) at a very low level. That’s crazy money.
Going further up the chain, mining keeps paying. Mithril ore is at a (relatively) low 35g/stack currently. Thorium Ore continues to be the winner on my server- the market standard is currently 80g/stack on my server (I think because someone is messing with it), but is normally closer to 60g/stack.
Anyway, my big point is that mining pays at every level. As for a second profession, Skinning is often recommended, and it’s solid. There’s lots of stuff to skin as you level. However, leather isn’t in demand the way that mining and Herbalism mats are, and so I would recommend Enchanting. As you level, you’ll get plenty of items that you won’t need that are BOP. This is a great way to not have to vendor them. Also, Enchanting mats are valuable at any level- any greens you pick up will sell better as enchanting mats than as the item itself (people will buy the greens to DE, so you might as well do it yourself). And, most importantly, Enchanting is great at endgame, so if you can make money while leveling it AND have it rock at endgame, that’s a win-win.
Finally, there is only one other profession that I’ve found to be close: Fishing. As Hug mentions, fishing is potential cash cow. Fishing in the home cities (Stormwind, Ogrimmar, etc.) and the starting zones (Goldshire, Barrens, etc.) isn’t rewarding. However, outside of that, it’s very lucrative. I recently decided I liked the tranquility of Azshara and so I went to fish up that effing RNG fish there. After about an hour I had 5 stacks of assorted Winter Squid, Stonescale Eel, and Large Raw Mightfish. They all sold for about 60/g stack, and so that hour made me 300g. That was easier than doing dailies, and certainly more money than any zone-appropriate (level 55-ish+) can make questing in a similar amount of time.
As for the other things that Hug mentions- cloth and meat farming- they’re both viable. I don’t know much about farming meat, so I’m not going to say anything about it. In my experience, cloth farming is preferable to farming meat. I say this because often cloth farming will also generally happen while you’re questing. By this I mean that you will often be killing humanoids (that will drop cloth) while you’re questing. In my experience, the sweet spot is the Scarlet Monastery. However, picking up Linen Cloth in the Stocks/RFC or farming Mageweave from the Dunemaul Ogres in Tanaris can also be very lucrative.
Okay, that’s about all I’ve got. Hopefully this post helps. 3.3 is here all, so make that money! I’ll keep answering questions, and taking new questions in comments to this post.
GL! /bow

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December 14th, 2009 at 11:52 pm
One excellent tip I got from warcraftecon that really made a difference to me while levelling was to sell complete sets of pages from the Green Hills of Stranglethorn. This made me tons of gold at a time when 100g was a fortune. These sets are bought by level-capped achievement collectors who are trying to complete the achievement “Hemet Nessingwary: The Collected Quests”, but who didn’t level up in Stranglethorn Vale, or who skipped the page-gathering quest when they were in their 30s.
Interestingly enough, advertising these pages for 30g a set draws a lot of ire from players who think it overpriced. People can actually be quite rude! Many comment cuttingly that players at levels 30-40 can’t possibly afford these prices and that I’m ripping them off and will never sell a single set. I always thank these players for their advice, and never explain to them what my real target market is (even though mention of the achievement should already have told them).
I still sell about one set for every three advertisements I make, even though most of the dedicated achievement collectors have long since completed it.
December 15th, 2009 at 7:45 am
I love fishing.. I was capped for fishing on my main way before I would get to the next level so I could increase the profession. My two favorite places to fish were Dustwallow March and Tanaris. Why you may ask? Pools. They both have lots of them. Oily blackmouth, Firefin snapper, stonescale eel. But then after you fish those, if you are lucky they will respawn to the floating wreakage pools. Fishing up those trucks..usually some silver.. and leather and cloth, but you can find greens , recipes (I found several blues ones , those were fun finds!)
Tanaris is especially fun.. fish some pools , go beat up on some wastewonders , or south sea pirates, then go see what pools respawn. The open waters have the Summer bass, winterfin and the big mouth clams too. I look forward to leveling to both those areas. My bank account is much higher when its time to leave.
Periluna
December 15th, 2009 at 2:47 pm
You forgot about the Small Eggs. This is a semi-holiday thing but Small egg, 150% drop rate from lvl 5-7 Dragonhawks in BE land. Might be able to sell them for 2-4g each egg during Chrismas :3
Kohaku
December 23rd, 2009 at 12:29 pm
Fishing is huge. As far as enchanting, well its a crafting profession. ANY crafting profession is essentially a gold sink until level 80. You will not find/produce enough materials to cover the cost of leveling enchanting unless you level slowly. I’m not saying you can’t make money on it (its hard. you can, but its hard), or that its not useful (it is, very), but enchanting is a tough nut to grind.
Anyway I would actually recommend herb/skin, for the reason that they will not slow you down as you level. I hate having to spend extra hours in a zone circling around aimlessly. Mining is great money but herb is faster leveling and honestly just as profitable. Anything but peacebloom sells for about 15-20g a stack. At around 70 I would dump skinning and level up alchemy. Alchemy is absolutely huge right now, and a serious money maker. At max level you can make epic gems cheaply, with a guaranteed 100g profit every single day just by doing an xmute.
Fishing is also huge, you can get your epic flyer just by fishing if you want.
I think the main thing for newbies is to vendor every grey, firstly buy netherweave bags, 4 for you, 4 for your banker (a level 1 alt that has 4 bags and sits in your capital city). Mail every white item to your banker, and sell it. If it doesn’t sell after a few times just vendor it.
Lastly from 70 to 80 you’ll make 2000-3000g just in quests and vendor trash. So you are pretty much guaranteed to have cold wather flying by 77, which is the intent of course. And your first priority at 80 should absolutely be epic flying.