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The State of the Market, January 2011 (Part 1 of 2)

The WoW marketplace is, Dear Reader, complex and ever changing. As a consistent reader of P3P, I’m sure you already know that. But this was something I had to deal with recently, with my return to a consistent, post-wedding WoW schedule. So I think a quick survey of macro trends might be useful. I started thinking about lots of things, ie: market movement, Wrath vs. Cataclysm, complexity, and more. Since tonight is the State of the Union address here is the US of A, a State of the Market post seemed appropriate.

(Note: Since this is a fairly long list, the P3P editors have decided that we should break it up into two parts. So we’ll do half today, and half later in the week.)

We are exactly seven weeks into Cataclysm. At this point in WotLK, the market was just starting to take shape. This is what I remember from the first few weeks of WotLK:

Part 1

(1) Commodity prices were very high;

(2) There were wild price discrepancies and money-making opportunities across professions (especially Inscription, which was brand new);

(3) Craftable BOE raid-level gear was very expensive (and profitable);

Part 2

(4) Raiding guilds were able to make money by selling raid drops (especially enchanting mats);

(5) Niche markets were popping up all over the place, and formed a nice side business for many auctioneers;

(6) Finally, because of daily quests and questing generally, there was a huge influx of gold in the market.

Let’s go down the list now and talk about how things stand in Cataclysm.

 

High Commodity Prices

Prices for commodities are still high, but they’re falling. Already the standard price for most of the basic Cata commodities has dropped by about 40% from the standard price a month ago. Prices are still high, but are also prone to wild price swings, depending on the day and time of day. For example, Obsidium Ore sells on my server for about 4.5g/piece (90g/stack). However, on a recent Saturday evening, I was able to buy about 200 stacks of Obsidium Ore for less than 3g/piece (60g/stack). This is true across the board: need Whiptail? Or Cinderbloom? Or Elementium Ore? Try to buy them at night, ideally late night (around midnight server), and/or on weekends generally. And keep an eye on trade chat. Why? Because those are the times that more people are playing. More people= more farmers= more supply= lower prices. You don’t have to be John Maynard Keynes to understand that.

There are still a few commodities that have such strong demand that their price hasn’t dropped off, and I’m not sure that it will. Volatiles of all types are staying stubbornly pricey. Volatile Life, specifically, has huge demand pressure on it (Darkmoon Card of Destruction, Transmute Living Elements, etc.) and so I don’t see price falling off too much. So keep an eye out for price deals if you can find them, and go from there.

 

Professions

Professions make money, and the market is so varied that I’m confident that if you have any profession at max (or near-max) level, you can make money with it. The big-money professions are, more or less, the same- Jewelcrafting, Inscription, and Enchanting, followed by Blacksmithing and Alchemy in some order of profitability. (All followed, very distantly, by my beloved Engineering… which is still a dog compared to the other professions. It’s fun, it’s profitable, but it’s probably not going to get you goldcapped.) So all that is, more or less, the same as WotLK

However, there are some serious differences, specifically regarding gathering professions. In short, farming was heavily. Mining and Herbalism (and Skinning to a lesser extent) have been buffed! They now reward experience (if you’re leveling), nodes are very common, it is possible to display both types of nodes on your minimap (herbs and ore) and 310% flight speed is commonly available.

Also, the new profession isn’t a hulking monstrosity that requires multiple addons (read: Inscription). Instead, the new profession is a gatherer’s dream (read: Archaeology). Supposedly, it makes money. I don’t know yet, personally, because I found it to be really boring. But if I was leveling, say on a dual-gatherer Deathknight with … it’d be great.

 

BOE Gear

BOE gear is still expensive and profitable… but I’m not sure how much. There’s wide variety between items. Here are three examples: I bought an Elementium Girdle from someone for 2,400g (and resold it for 8,500g); I made a Three of Winds and sold it for 2,800 gold (about 1,000g profit at the time); and I made and Silver Inlaid Leaf for 1,400g (so far below the cost of the mats that I don’t even want to think about it). There are two points I’d like to bring up with this: first, the BOE market (including Darkmoon Decks) is inconsistent; second, I don’t have a Blacksmith, so I don’t really know what I’m talking about. In sum, I’m looking for some feedback. Let me know, Dear Reader, about any BOE experiences.

 

So, Dear Reader, that’s the Part 1 of the P3P State of the Market. Hopefully 2011 will be as good to you as 2010 was to Markco, Gevlon, and Euripides combined. We’ll be back later in the week with Part 2. As ever, thanks in advance for any and all feedback. We read every comment.

GL! /bow

-Jimm







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4 Responses to “The State of the Market, January 2011 (Part 1 of 2)”

  • Ozolin of Moon Guard Says:

    I’ve never been looking to make money with my Leatherworking, per se, but with the seemingly high value of BoE epics, even Blues to a lesser extent earlier on, I’ve dabbled a bit, only to find that while AH addons value the pieces qutie high, buyers are few if present at all. Admittedly, I’m a total noob when it comes to P3P and making gold, but I didn’t expect it to be so difficult to sell items I regularly see listed for thousands of gold at a time. Items like the Dragonkiller Tunic and Corded Viper Belt dont seem to garner quite the amounts that Auctioneer seems to suggest they should. I know LW isn’t considered a money maker, but it’s what I have maxed out (in addition to skinning.)

    Thanks for the great blog, I read regularly but this is my first comment.

  • Zamboni Says:

    Archaeology makes money in the same way that gathering aluminum cans out of the gutter makes money. While the prices for keystones looks attractive, the time you’ll waste between each keystone drop will put your gold/hour slightly behind gathering boar meat in Durotar.

    I leveled one character to 85 purely from Archaeology – an amusing way to burn up some time, but the term “makes money” didn’t seem to come up along the way.

  • Dreamtheater Says:

    What I’ve seen so far with the BoEs is that some people are highly willing to take a monetary plunge for some of these drops with nice iLevels even if better gear exists through easily completable quests. I.e. http://www.wowhead.com/item=67238 which drops from a large gyreworm “terborus” in deepholm is routinely selling for anywhere from 5-10k easily because of the inaccessibility of raids to the average wow player (atm.) I’ve also had luck on the AH with http://www.wowhead.com/item=66940. People routinely post this thing for 200-300g and it flips for about 2k. The amusing part is that it is absolutely inferior to the http://www.wowhead.com/item=63789 quest reward from the Crucible of Carnage in Twilight Highlands.

    Granted, In my Auction House wanderings I’ve seen numerous other BoE cata blues selling for barely above the D/E level but as always being educated is the key to profit.

  • Iain Says:

    I’ve made fair profit from Tailoring and Leatherworking selling PvP gear.

    For tailoring it has been the 525 gear (head/chest/legs) and for leatherworking it has been the 525 gear and the Wyrmhide (moonkin/resto) and Dragonscale (hunter/enchancement) sets.

    Leg armor and spellthread profits have been minimal since the rare quality ones are used to level and the epic ones are so expensive that there isn’t high enough demand.

    I’m not into archaeology much, but it could be minimally profitable next patch with the increased vendor prices of the grey items.

    In regards to crafted epics and JC 346 jewelry, I sell 1-2/week of each I’d say.