If anyone got bored by this, I am sorry

Background Readings

Gevlon’s plan on improving the GDKP
solo-rewards-for-group-effort
PUG
rule-in-gold-bid

Summary :
Gevlon try to introduce an improvement to GDKP, since GDKP do not compensate the other bidder “enough” and encourage bidding. He suggest that the final bid’s 1/3 will go to the second bidder (Instead of going to the gold pool for the raid)

The Game

I’ll try to rephrase my argument.
A given loot had been auctioned
Let Player A maximum bid be 1000g (FPBP)
Let Player B maximum bid be 900g (SPBP)

Traditional GDKP

Player A would get the loot, -900g
Player B would get nothing
Raid gets 900g

Honest Gevlon’s competition,

Player A would get the loot, -900g
Player B would get 300g,
Raid gets 600g

Zekta’s Double Bidding

Player B finds a cooperator Player C. in which, he’ll always bid just before player B (With B’s Gold).

Auction will stop when Player A withdraw.
Player A bid on 1000g,
Player C bid on 1100g,
Player B bid on 1200g, and win the auction

Results:
Player A would get nothing
Player B would get loot, -1200g
Player C get 1200*1/3=400g.
Raid gets 800g

Player C gives back the gold to Player B (He’s just a bid dummy for player B)
In Summary,
Player B would get loot, -1200+400= -800g

Player A would get nothing
Player B would get loot, -800g
Raid gets 800g

In Summary

If taking my double fire bidding plan, Player B is better off in this situation, since he would want to loot for 900g, but he now get it for 800g.

In this case, the only benefactor is Player B, at the expenses of Both Player A (Getting the Loot he value 1000g with 900g) and Raid (Getting 900g pool).

The only way to counter that is player A also use “double fire” bidding plan, but then the result is the same as Traditional GDKP (with bidding on 200g).

The fallacy of Gevlon example

At his Bid Ninja assumption, he stated
“So FG offers SGBP and not a cent more. It’s unreasonable for SG to bid more now if he did not bid 20 seconds ago, and BN has no options.”

The item valued by the FP (first player) to the First Player Break Point (FPBP), state that, the player is willing to pay until FPBP. Although it provides 0 values to the NB, He also knew P1 want the item. The Trade will occur as long as SPBP < = Price <= FPBP. But not necessarily equals to SPBP.

While destroying the item provide no benefits to BN, but this option provide an effective threat to P1. Consider the similar case in Mutual assured destruction in cold war and Cuba Crisis.

No, this post is not about gold.
It’s about pursuits of the Brewfest Mount

So, a normal player are meeting Direbrew 5 times a day.
Some of them is wishing the brewfest mount drop, so they gotta roll on that. With many replicated trinket left behind.

Is that the only way?
How about paying people for summoning Direbrew?

I got an even cheaper solution.

Asking player to summon Direbrew for free…
Yes, it’s cool, but how to get them to do it for free?

Secret ingredient: 75-79 player.

Of course, some of them will fight the boss with their guildmate, but still lots of them are rejected in the PUG channel.

Offer them the Trinket you don’t need anyway
(if it drops, let them have it, Not suitable of their class? it’s free, come tomorrow)
And request that you can get the mount if it drop.

It’s a fair deal for both of you.
Free Summon for Free Trinket.

P.s I know this post is kinda late, but we still got couple of days left~~

Especially true on the 71 to 80 AV Bracket (As of pre-3.2.2)

Player Composition

1. Serious Pvper – Who want to win the battle with strategy and group work.
2. Gankers – Who want to show how powerful they are, by one hit others. And they can’t twink anymore, since they can only face player who are twink as well (From the XP lock system). They want to slaughter, not a fair game… (I am not saying all twink are ganker, but the ganker had a large portion of the pre-3.2 twink community)
3. Low level pvper, (and now, Leveler) – The High level player (e.g. 80 or 70) used to boo them for dragging back the team. But they become the major group in Battle Ground now.

What happened in 3.2

Group 3 increase dramatically, just like what happened welfare Epic handed out back in TBC.
Incentive of leveling in AV is huge (I got a level (73) in AV in 8 battles on Sunday as well).

Group 2 increased as well,
Since the twink battleground do not work anymore, rather than spending hour in the wild for picking low level player, they can just kill those 72-74 player, who are definitely squishy for them.

Conflict of interest

Player in Group 1 and 3 want smooth battle, fast-game since XP only reward on achieving goals only.

While Group 2 (Gankers) don’t give a damn, they just want to show how IMBA (they think) they are, they are the guy who (attempts) kill everyone they come across, start fight in cross road, which will ends up in a turtle game.

Summary

Pre 3.2, the effect of gankers is much more devastating. Since in the past, opposite group 1 players are powerful enough out-weights the gankers,

while in 3.2 the leveler is helpless against them (And thus fuel them with oil).

Thus the setup will shift the balance of fast game to turtle game.

The 3.2.2 71-79, 80 bracket change should able to ease the problem.

I could use some _Free_ leveling for my banker for travel from (Druid)

I joined the party, and most of them recognize my bank alts name from the AH (Fame may not be a good thing for us though).

The catch about the boost thing is that the DK want to collect wool and silk for leveling tailoring.
So she decided to do it herself, and she even let us keep on the loot (Blueies and greenies).

I didn’t pick much, since the other alts are so eager to loot all the corpses, and I don’t really need that. (In goblin term, I don’t even want to do the clicking)

I tried to give her some advice (Since I would said it’s pretty time consuming on farming wools there)

1. She should consider buying cloth on AH, instead of farming that herself. (Consider 2-3 stacks of wool, per run of stockack, and it’s sold 1-2G per stack?)
   - She refused, I suspect she had no idea of what’s opportunity cost
2. Boost people for payment and buy those cloth is much more effective (If she’s not willing to pay for cloth)
   - She refused too, for a social reason “people boost me before, so I shouldn’t charge others for it”
3. The price on AH is on 4-5g due to shortage on weekend, so I told her if she ever consider to buy them, she better do it on weekday
4. She believe the cloth should be sold at 50% price (50s) on what show on my auctioneer average, and said anyone selling higher than that is a evil trader (Bxxxtard etc). I doubt that anyone will sell her except morons.

I was thinking to sell her on 1g (100% market price), for some stock remaining in my mail box, (I would lost 200% if I put that on the market, since they’re 300%+ now).
But I didn’t even suggest that (Since she won’t accept that price anyway).

Finally I offered some tips on where to farm for mageweave. (If you really had to farm, at least find somewhere worth your time)

I can foresee she’ll be farming the instance for hours to get her tailoring up.
While telling her to stop boosting others is against my own interest (Since I can be boosted too), but….

There is not much I could do,
if she just didn’t listen to advice.
But at least she is happy about this (may be).

Sometimes, the reason for people remain poor is themselves.
-Zekta

Holmes in a rush

I started my time racing.
Many may not know that, My server (on TW)
have had a different patch schedule than the US and EU

That is we are still not on 3.1 yet.

Normally it’ll be 2 days behind (Our Maintenance day will be on Thursday)
Last week’s 3.1 outage on US server delayed the patch for a week (may be another?)

As many WOW Economy results come out from US,

JMTC and  Warcraft Econ

Things does not go as we predicted.
(I’ll wrote a post on why I was not prepared for 3.1 tomorrow, but it seems outdated for now)
E.g.
Ethereal is not required that much in BS recipes
Raid are having difficult time at Ulduar,
and PUGs seems cannot pass through the barrier anyhow.
Flooding on the market for the gold for dual spec.

All of these, forced me to have a change in plan in my investment.
That’s Liquidize for now, and do stockpiling when 3.1 hits.
And I”ll only had 1/2 days for it. (The earliest I can get in is 7pm)
While trade fast is not my style.
(It induce lose of profits)
The market price change will have devaste impact on my end game stocks.

So wish me luck on that…

Plan

Must do:
Sell half of the bars I got before
Sell ALL meats (Since people will keep farming, and fish will fulfill their needs for raid)
Sell Excess Etheral Earth

May do:
Sell all TitanSteel bars

I’ll mostly sell them thought channel to reduce the trade time….

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I failed to sell those [item]Saronite Bar[/item] and [item]TitanSteel Bar/[item]
the buyout price on AH is already 30% off the market price
and I am not ready to say good bye to them in these price,
I’ll pay for the rent in bank for the price to climb back.
(I am considering to think like goods place should count rents,
since it’ll take resource for me to take care of it,
and earn extra space for them, Opportunity cost in some sense)
I had sold the [item]Saronite Bar[/item] by crafting them into arrows.
Although I don’t how long will they keep on buying on that price.
At least it can slowly consume my stockpile.

The Meat sold beautifully however.
Which gain me more cash for the buying berserk next week.